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SilverCaper 04-17-2009 05:24 PM

Palm City woman shoots home invader 3 times w/.40 caliber pistol.
 
Watch the video where they state it was a .40 caliber pistol.

Palm City woman shoots home invader
Reported by: Bryan Garner
Email: bgarner@wptv.com
Reported by: Carolyn Scofield
Last Update: 6:07 am

Christopher Reber, home invasion suspect (St. Lucie Co. Sheriff's Office)
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* Suspect in home invasion shot multiple times

STUART, FL - A worker at Guns, Etc. on Dixie Highway says Linda Schultz Russo trained there several years ago to get her concealed weapons permit.

Russo shot a man who was trying to break into her Palm City townhome Thursday morning.

Click on the video player to the right to watch the latest story

The suspect was identified as 23-year old Christopher Reber, who used to work at the Russo's pizza shop.

Brooklyn Joe's pizza is just a few doors down in the same shopping center as Guns, Etc.

The gunshop employee says Russo and her husband had even taken Reber in for a while.

Reber remained in critical condition at St. Mary's Medical Center.

Russo was listed in good condition at the hospital Thursday night.

Investigators have not released a motive in the Thursday morning crime.

PALM CITY, FL -- A Palm City woman pulled a gun on an armed man who broke into her home this morning, and after a shoot-out, both the woman and the suspect ended up in the hospital.

Martin County Sheriff's deputies say the confrontation happened just before 9 a.m. in the sleepy Lake Village neighborhood of Palm City.

Neighbors say the attacker, 23-year old Christopher Reber of Port St. Lucie, used a shotgun to blast his way through the sliding glass door of a home on Crossings Circle.

The home owner, Linda Schultz, was prepared to fight back. Neighbors say she had a gun of her own.

"I believe she�s always had one. There are many in this neighborhood who have all gone for concealed weapons courses now," says Linda Smyth, president of the Lake Village home owners' association.

Smyth says as soon as she heard the shots, she rushed to help her neighbor. She found Schultz injured with cuts and a black eye, standing on her front lawn, calling 911.

"She was hysterical," says Smyth. "I did get a towel to hold over her wound and waited with her until the police and paramedics showed up."

The suspect escaped. Deputies launched an intensive search through Stuart and Port St. Lucie.

Then, around 11 A.M., they got a break. One of Reber's family members tipped off sheriff's deputies to where he was.

Deputies descended on the Suburban Lodge, a motel along US-1 in Stuart. They found Reber in room 337.

Rescue crews who tended to hime found him seriously wounded from the shoot-out at the home. They treated him for multiple gunshot wounds, loaded him on to an air ambulance and flew him to St. Mary's Medical Center in West Palm Beach for trauma care.

"Everybody in this neighborhood is cheering, and we�re absolutely elated that she fought back and stood her ground. She�s one tough little woman," says Smyth.

Schultz and her husband own a local restaurant, Broadway Joe's Pizza on Dixie Hwy in Stuart. Smyth says the suspect is a former employee of theirs who has tried to break into their home twice in the past two years.

"They�re just a wonderful family. This is ludicrous, it�s absolutely a sin that someone would target a family that�s this nice," she says.

Deputies say Reber was transported to St. Mary's with "serious injuries."

Schultz is also being treated at St. Mary's, but Linda Smyth says it appeared that her friend's injuries were "superficial."

http://www.wptv.com/news/local/story...qHIsKS0DA.cspx

Willie Peter 04-17-2009 07:21 PM

Re: Palm City woman shoots home invader 3 times w/.40 caliber pistol.
 
Wow, 3 shots from a 40? he was lucky......

Tragedy Trousers 04-17-2009 07:46 PM

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Ya, shot 3 times and he still drove away only to be captured latter.

gbgunner 04-17-2009 07:47 PM

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I'm not surprised. A .40 S&w has never killed anyone. Ever. Period. Look it up. Google it or whatever.

Shoden 04-17-2009 08:08 PM

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Here's another .40 caliber incident, where the bad guy was shot 22 times, 17 hits center mass, and still managed to shoot the cop several times and lived more than four minutes after the last shot was fired.

http://www.lawofficer.com/news-and-a..._incident.html

Quote:

The Aftermath
Remarkably, Palmer had taken 22 hits from Soulis' .40-caliber Glock, 17 of which had hit center mass. Despite the fact that the weapon had been loaded with Ranger SXTs�considered by many to be one of the best man-stoppers available�Palmer lived for more than four minutes after the last shot was fired. His autopsy revealed nothing more than a small amount of alcohol in his bloodstream. Although Soulis could not have known it, Palmer was wanted for murder in a neighboring state.

Soulis made a full recovery and returned to work less than a month later. He has since retired, and now works for a national railroad as its principle special agent for counterterrorism. He also serves as an adjunct instructor for KFD Training & Consultation and Policecombat.com, which provide cutting edge training for police officers in advanced close quarters combative tactics and officer survival skills.

Fullpower 04-17-2009 08:09 PM

Re: Palm City woman shoots home invader 3 times w/.40 caliber pistol.
 
I feel terrible for that woman.
Imagine the trauma.
3 shots, and the dirtbag was still breathing.
I hope her next pistol is a 45

wallew 04-17-2009 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoden (Post 1682813)
Here's another .40 caliber incident, where the bad guy was shot 22 times, 17 hits center mass, and still managed to shoot the cop several times and lived more than four minutes after the last shot was fired.

http://www.lawofficer.com/news-and-articles/articles/lom/0412/the_peter_soulis_incident.html

So much for NO ONE BEING KILLED BY A .40 caliber, huh!!!

Guy DIED. OK, he shot up the cop who killed him. But in the long run, the .40 did it's job.

Remarkably, Palmer had taken 22 hits from Soulis' .40-caliber Glock, 17 of which had hit center mass. Despite the fact that the weapon had been loaded with Ranger SXTs—considered by many to be one of the best man-stoppers available—Palmer lived for more than four minutes after the last shot was fired. His autopsy revealed nothing more than a small amount of alcohol in his bloodstream. Although Soulis could not have known it, Palmer was wanted for murder in a neighboring state.

And while I don't do others research, I'm fairly certain that MANY people have been killed by a .40 caliber. It is the round of choice of numerous Law Enforcement departments. From city to county to state to federal, there are a lot of LEO's who are carrying a .40 caliber in their holster right now.

platinumdude 04-17-2009 08:41 PM

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I have a .308 FAL with soft points at the ready.

Irons 04-17-2009 09:01 PM

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The .40 SW was great when it was a 10mm auto, now its only good for putting holes in paper.

Heimdhal 04-17-2009 09:36 PM

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http://goldismoney.info/forums/showt...65#post1681965
#3

already posted there, but It deserves its own thread.

I think the moral of the story is, that even the .40 can drop some one day, but when these dudes are doped up on PCP, or Crack/heroin+alcohol or Meth, you have to stop every bodily function: Circulatory, respritory, neurological(brain), etc.

Even if you're packing a .357, .44, 10mm, when they are that doped, its going to take a little bit extra to take em down.

wallew 04-17-2009 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Irons (Post 1682889)
The .40 SW was great when it was a 10mm auto, now its only good for putting holes in paper.

Irons,
I think that Palmer (dead perp) might just disagree with this statement. I KNOW SOULIS (wounded LEO) would.

BTW, Palmer shot SOULIS with his 9mm. Hit him FOUR times. His vest stopped the center mass shot. But he took hits to just above his left wrist, dead center his left forearm and the fourth into his left thigh.

Yet he lived. OK, Palmer was hit 22 times. SEVERAL were center mass and he was NOT wearing a vest as was Soulis. But even with three solid hits on the LEO, he lived. The perp died.

With 22 hits, I'd say almost any caliber might have done the job. Though I'm confident that the .40 caliber bullets did not help Palmer any.

Irons 04-17-2009 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by wallew (Post 1682969)
Irons,
I think that Palmer (dead perp) might just disagree with this statement. I KNOW SOULIS (wounded LEO) would.

BTW, Palmer shot SOULIS with his 9mm. Hit him FOUR times. His vest stopped the center mass shot. But he took hits to just above his left wrist, dead center his left forearm and the fourth into his left thigh.

Yet he lived. OK, Palmer was hit 22 times. SEVERAL were center mass and he was NOT wearing a vest as was Soulis. But even with three solid hits on the LEO, he lived. The perp died.

With 22 hits, I'd say almost any caliber might have done the job. Though I'm confident that the .40 caliber bullets did not help Palmer any.

I'm just not a fan of the .40 sw. I watched the entire dog and pony show when it was developed, if you can call dumping 1/2 the powder out af a 10mm auto shell developing, and talked to the MI state cops who got them and hated them. The "only good for punching holes in paper" was said by a Cop on my pistol range!
At the time it wasn't about what worked the best, it was all about which company marketed the best. IMHO.
Its a better round now than it was back then but the bad taste lingers, I woulden't buy one.

Darkside 04-17-2009 10:10 PM

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thats why ya gotta go with HP rounds

turn 'em into hamburger meat

____hoot____ 04-17-2009 10:18 PM

Re: Palm City woman shoots home invader 3 times w/.40 caliber pistol.
 
Had a local go postal about a half mile from me about 25 years ago. Fortuneatly he moved off in the other direction and had killed three people before a lone sherriff deputy took him out with a single 50 yard head shot with a 38.

wallew 04-17-2009 10:41 PM

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Irons,
I concur.

That's why this is my go to pistol:

http://www.goldismoney.info/forums/a...1&d=1240022454

elroy 04-17-2009 11:20 PM

Re: Palm City woman shoots home invader 3 times w/.40 caliber pistol.
 
Thank god it wasn't a 9mm. We would have never heard the end of it.

"never go to a gunfight without something that starts with a 4"
"if only she had used a .40"

There is not that much difference between a .40 and a .45, in diameter, weight, power, speed etc.

If you want to talk about the difference between a .44 magnum and a .45 or a .357 and a .38 then we can talk.

None of these handguns compare to a lightning bolt from god. It is about shot placement and maintaining fire until the perp goes down.

I'm glad she was prepared and gave the perp what he deserved. I hope she recovers and is ok.

Irons 04-17-2009 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by wallew (Post 1683041)
Irons,
I concur.

That's why this is my go to pistol:

http://www.goldismoney.info/forums/a...1&d=1240022454

Nice! I'm not allowed to have one that short, but I do have this beauty from 1986
Attachment 68472

GoldWampum 04-18-2009 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Darkside (Post 1683004)
thats why ya gotta go with HP rounds

turn 'em into hamburger meat

This is Correct.

Quote:

Originally Posted by elroy (Post 1683095)
Thank god it wasn't a 9mm. We would have never heard the end of it.

"never go to a gunfight without something that starts with a 4"
"if only she had used a .40"

There is not that much difference between a .40 and a .45, in diameter, weight, power, speed etc.

If you want to talk about the difference between a .44 magnum and a .45 or a .357 and a .38 then we can talk.

None of these handguns compare to a lightning bolt from god. It is about shot placement and maintaining fire until the perp goes down.

I'm glad she was prepared and gave the perp what he deserved. I hope she recovers and is ok.

Apple core, say no more... hand-cannons aside.

wallew 04-18-2009 01:26 PM

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Irons,

Thats sweet. And it will do the job just fine.

Make sure you practice. And consider a muzzle brake. It will 'tame' that beauty so muzzle rise is non-existent.

It has for mine.

Between The Wheels 04-18-2009 01:39 PM

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First the 9mm, now the .40? Guys, you're wiping out my pistol calibers. I can't afford to go .45ACP or wheelgun.

JJ_ 04-18-2009 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Between The Wheels (Post 1683732)
First the 9mm, now the .40? Guys, you're wiping out my pistol calibers. I can't afford to go .45ACP or wheelgun.


don't sweat it man... Just remember...Would YOU wanna be shot w/ either of those?

FiftySense 04-18-2009 03:12 PM

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Only one type of bullet is sure to put em down..

http://carcino.gen.nz/images/image.p...?cb=1115204527
http://www.ratemyeverything.net/imag...y_Bullets.ashx


http://carcino.gen.nz/images/image.p...?cb=1115204527

Irons 04-18-2009 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by wildcard (Post 1683740)
We've left .45 and other pistol calibers in the dust. Now we're up to rifle calibers.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3...g?t=1240077123

:111:


*if you really want to feel secure go with the 20mm

http://www.lastexittonowhere.com/med.../blog/Stan.jpg

Don't laugh Wild, Vollmer was making belt fed HK-91 full auto conversions back in the late 80's that were not much bigger than the AK pic you posted!:36_1_25:
Well Well, I found a pic of one!

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Just in one of the meanest guns out there. Vollmer conversion with Reg SEAR. Beltfed HK 51 in .308. This gun is like new, it's been sitting in a closet since being converted. This is not for the timid, lots of fire power in a small package. In stock ready to transfer.
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CrufflerJJ 04-18-2009 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Irons (Post 1684030)
Don't laugh Wild, Vollmer was making belt fed HK-91 full auto conversions back in the late 80's that were not much bigger than the AK pic you posted!

He also had a pistol-sized full auto HK91 that fed from mags. I don't know his model designation for that one. I think he made two of them. One was used in a movie (?Steven Segal?), and the other one was auctioned off last year. Unfortunately, I recall that the latter pistol was being sold to raise money for his wife's cancer treatment.

Vollmer's shop put out very nice work. I've got one of his HK94-->MP5 conversions, and it's most excellent. Too bad his lead 'smith left to join the local Sheriff's Dept.

Irons 04-18-2009 08:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CrufflerJJ (Post 1684056)
He also had a pistol-sized full auto HK91 that fed from mags. I don't know his model designation for that one. I think he made two of them. One was used in a movie (?Steven Segal?), and the other one was auctioned off last year. Unfortunately, I recall that the latter pistol was being sold to raise money for his wife's cancer treatment.

Vollmer's shop put out very nice work. I've got one of his HK94-->MP5 conversions, and it's most excellent. Too bad his lead 'smith left to join the local Sheriff's Dept.

You, sir, are one of the few who know!:shakehand
I just started a Vollmer HK thread.:RockOn:


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